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Very small business licensing... ?

Postby a.schild » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:55 pm

Hello,

we have a client who actually uses scalix 11.4 with 7 premium accounts.
So far the licensing is ok for us, the free community edition works fine.

But they are interested in ativesync for 2-3 the mobile devices.
The active sync licenses must be purchased separately, that would be no problem also.

BUT: We can only license active sync when the server also has a small business or enterprise license, And the smallest license we can get is a 20 user license...

Is there realy no way to get a 10 user SB license ? (Or active sync licenses for the community edition )

We have a lot of small companies with less that 20 users, and for all these we can't make a offer who is competitive to a MS SBS Server...

André

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Postby florian » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:07 pm

We are not planning anything below the named entry point. SBE-20 is and will remain our smallest commercial product edition. The smallest pack of Active Sync licenses will be 5 users. With those two together, afaiu Microsoft's list pricing for SBS for 7 users including wireless will be more expensive than our offering. Understand that this doesn't take other services in SBS into account, but in any way the margins are too small here to really compete on pricing......

I'd dare to say that with a couple of our advanced features like CalDAV support, a desktop-ready web client, Proxy Folders and more this is a very competitive and cost-effective offering.....

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Florian.
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Postby a.schild » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:00 am

florian wrote:We are not planning anything below the named entry point. SBE-20 is and will remain our smallest commercial product edition. The smallest pack of Active Sync licenses will be 5 users. With those two together, afaiu Microsoft's list pricing for SBS for 7 users including wireless will be more expensive than our offering.

Since the prices are not visible on the scalix website (I find that a bad idea), I have now requested a quote...

florian wrote:Understand that this doesn't take other services in SBS into account, but in any way the margins are too small here to really compete on pricing......

The other SBS functions are not a problem.
In most cases the SQL Server 2005 Express edition is enough, and that one is free.
Sharepoint services are just massive oversized for SBS environment, no way to use them in a usefull and resource saving way.

If it's the "~ same" price as for a MS SBS solution then there is no problem, it should just not be more expensive. And if a Scalix-Minimal-purchase-Users-Edition is the same price as a 10-User MS SBS Server then it's OK.

florian wrote:I'd dare to say that with a couple of our advanced features like CalDAV support, a desktop-ready web client, Proxy Folders and more this is a very competitive and cost-effective offering.....


Will see on what offer I get...

Thanks

André

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Postby florian » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:10 am

a.schild wrote:
florian wrote:We are not planning anything below the named entry point. SBE-20 is and will remain our smallest commercial product edition. The smallest pack of Active Sync licenses will be 5 users. With those two together, afaiu Microsoft's list pricing for SBS for 7 users including wireless will be more expensive than our offering.
Since the prices are not visible on the scalix website (I find that a bad idea), I have now requested a quote...


We actually had them up for a while... However, we have customers in over 60 countries now and deal with a variety of reseller structures, distributors and currencies, some of which offer special discounts for their regions without us even knowing. Therefore, publishing pricing has proven problematic because it set wrong expectations, quite often making the product look more expensive than it is in a specific situation. For this reason, we have removed all actual numbers, although our partners and resellers may still decide to publish such information on their websites.

If you are a reseller, you can certainly get a full pricing proposal and structure either from a regional distributor or by contacting us directly.

Best,
Florian.
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