Is anybody home at Scalix?

[florian]

I'll still have to remain somewhat cryptic, sorry ... but

1. I don't think going to Zimbra is a good idea - as I generally don't do competitor-bashing, please talk to me privately for the 99 reasons why....

2. promised - nobody is going to suggest doing just THAT.

3. we are up to something.

4. the next release of scalix is going to hit the streets late august/early september. most likely it is going to be named 11.2 or so, but that hasn't been decided.

5. you will see some PR coming soon - assume either still this week or early the next; I'd have hoped to see us get something out earlier than that, but all I can say at this point is that this is sometimes not as easy as one might think....

6. The last announcement was early june when we launched 11.1.

7. My last - technical - post was from about 3 days ago; I"m currently travelling in Europe an quite busy with various things so bear with me not being too close to the forum. Subir, unfortunately, has moved on to other of his projects and is no longer with the company.

8. I'll get back to you in response to your personal email about who to work with going forward; I can't speak for your dealer, but their actions don't really make sense to me. Unfortunately, they hadn't at least once in the past, but I can't really speak for a 3rd party here.

9. I thought I would possibly end up with 10 items on this, but I only got to 8.....

Bear with me/us for just a little more,
Florian.

[jryden]

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8461099683.html

[Jeremy James]

jryden was faster than i in posting the information about the aquisition.

For the german speaking people follow this link:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/92873

[jaime.pinto]

Wow! This was a classic case. We could read the signs all around. No surprise it was a acquisition. Interesting that it was Xandros.
Let's see now when they will resume support and development now, since most former employees will remain on board.

[mnauta]

Maybe xandros might only want to provide support if using the xandros server? What about upgrade cost to xandros server w/scalix to existing customers? Some info to current customers might be nice.

[Derek]

My hope is that Xandros as a company will use Scalix. I think there would probably be far fewer bugs if this were to happen.

[Jammy]

My hope is that Xandros as a company will use Scalix. I think there would probably be far fewer bugs if this were to happen.

Xandros has been shipping (as part of our own product) and using Scalix for over a year now.

[KevinG]

Xandros has been shipping (as part of our own product) and using Scalix for over a year now.

Which version of Scalix do you use in house - 10 or 11? Do you use Web Access on large mailboxes and large public folders?

[florian]

Maybe xandros might only want to provide support if using the xandros server? What about upgrade cost to xandros server w/scalix to existing customers? Some info to current customers might be nice.

We will be doing further announcements over the next days and weeks, together with a FAQ.

As is stated in the published article on eWeek, Xandros/Scalix will continue to support Scalix on all currently supported platforms, i.e. SuSE, Red Hat, Univention and Xandros. While obviously, we'll use some synergies to create a fully integrated solution on top of the Xandros OS platform, this is part of Xandros' long-term multi-platform strategy and also a commitment to 100s of existing customers on those distributions.

Cheers,
Florian.

[florian]

My hope is that Xandros as a company will use Scalix. I think there would probably be far fewer bugs if this were to happen.

Scalix has been using our own products - usually pre-release versions - since day 1, with all possible client types, wireless devices, etc. Dogfooding is part of our philosophy and we identify a good number of issue - unfortunately not all - through the process.

We've used Scalix on mixed platforms as well - my own mailbox is hosted on a machine running SLES10 while the accounts of our UK development team are on a RHEL4 box.

Xandros has been using Scalix running on Xandros server for a long while; at this point, the internal install is running on Server 1 and Scalix 10; obviously most desktop clients there are Linux-based while a lot of Scalix people are actually running Windows and Outlook or even use Macs - like myself. The upgrade of Xandros internal infrastructure to Server 2.0 and Scalix 11.1 is planned for the next couple of weeks - the new product has only been out for very short.

We'll also go through the excercise of building multi-server integration into our environment, then including Xandros, SuSE and RedHat in the same Scalix environment. At some point, we'll most likely be running 4 mailservers in production, quite a large number for a company of about 100 employees - however, it makes good sense for dogfooding purposes and because the teams are distributed between offices in Canada, the US, India, UK and Germany.

Yes, we eat our own dogfood.

Cheers,
Florian.

[florian]

Maybe xandros might only want to provide support if using the xandros server? What about upgrade cost to xandros server w/scalix to existing customers? Some info to current customers might be nice.

If you are interested in cross-grading from Scalix running on RedHat or SuSE to RedHat running on Xandros, please contact our sales department - I assume they'll look at your subscription status and put a pretty interesting offer together for you.....

Florian.

[TheDude]

Yes, we eat our own dogfood.

I really like that philosophy. But, I had to look it up :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_one's_own_dog_food

As a longtime Forum poster and Scalix admin, I can tell you that I feel good about the changes after reading all the posts.

Thanks,

The Dude

[Derek]

Yes, we eat our own dogfood.

I didn't mean to imply that you didn't. But it seems like there is too much food for the pack. Meaning, I've seen a few "we've never seen that problem" responses to problems that many (forum) users seem to have.

[florian]

Sure. And I guess this will always be the case with every software company.

Product is complex and there are tons of environmental factors and issues; we try to make our environment as representative as possible, e.g. using multiple different Linux distros across the servers. However, especially on the client side, complete coverage is next to impossible...

Florian.

[dougp23]

Ugh. I am underwhelmed.

First nothing in the Annoucements portion of the forum. If this isn't an "announcement" then nothing ever has been in these forums.

And Scalix got bought by the company that signed one of those foolish "covenant not to sue" deals with Microsoft. Because as we all know, Linux infringes on more than 250 of Microsoft's "highly valuable patents" and "intellectual property". Of course ask Microsoft to point out just one, and they won't. Sort of like SCO suing IBM.

I hope this deal goes well, but I won't hold my breath.