Forget SpamAssassin, Use MailWasher with Scalix!

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Postby jpreston » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:00 pm

heffe2001,

I have NOT been able to get the junk mail submission to work properly with Scalix SWA. I have had success using it with Outlook or any other client supporting the "Forward As Attachment" option.

As a note, I did NOT create a local scalix user for this task. I believe I created a MailWasher user account however.

I am NOT a MailWasher representative nor am I affiliated with them in any way outside of being a paying customer and fan of their excellent product. The statements I am about to make are my opinion only and their validity and accuracy may or may not be true. Please contact a FireTrust MailWasher representative for any questions, comments or clarification.

According to Firetrust, the "Junk Mail Submission Service" is not hosted by the local installation. All reported messages are forwarded to Firetrust's FirstAlert! Spam Filtering Service (a pay mail filter hashing log thing). When a new message arrives, it is scanned locally by the local installation and a hash of that email is queried against the FirstAlert! service which flags e-mails as either ham or spam. If you are using the demo service, you'll notice that the reason the email was quarantined was because of "FirstAlert! Match: Category" or something like that.

Forwarding messages to the "Junk Mail Submission Service" really only benefits those of us who have a license to use the FirstAlert! service.

Hope that helps!
-- Joshua Preston
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Postby KKJensen » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:10 pm

Forwarding messages to the "Junk Mail Submission Service" really only benefits those of us who have a license to use the FirstAlert! service.

I have submitted over 200 junk emails thinking that it was useful for the statistical side of things..."wonderful"...

Anyway, I'm using the trial code for FirstAlert! but this is only good until the end of the month. Of all the email I see in the "statistics" page, about 60% are caught by FirstAlert and the rest by statistical analysis. I've got several blockhole services setup (the ones mentioned back on the first page of this thread) but I don't see them doing anything....am I missing something to get reliable protection from anything but FirstAlert?

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Postby jpreston » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:28 pm

KKJensen,

Using the black-hole list servers does in fact play a role in the filtering process. I'm not entirely sure to what extent however.

Utilizing the black-hole servers AFAIK is the LAST STEP in the MailWasher filtering process. If the FirstAlert! service or statistical analysis analyzes mail as spam, it is more than likely not going through any of the black listing services that are configured. You can however, according to some of the documentation I've read, opt to utilize the same black listing services in sendmail instead of using MailWasher to query them first.

That being said, I cannot confirm or even assume how that can be accomplished as I am NOT a sendmail fan or an expert on sendmail. I do know that that question has been asked on the FireTrust MailWasher forums.

There is a good possibility that some of the advanced topics and questions would be better answered on their forums, which are located at http://www.firetrust.org/phpBB2/.

Lastly, I will say that if 60% of your mail is being identified as spam by the FirstAlert! service, and you've been submitting samples to them, you are helping your spam filter out. I am a paying subscriber and am quite happy with their service.

In the original post, I mentioned that the FirstAlert! service is optional and that it is a pay service with reasonable corporate pricing plans. This service contributes to the well being of the entire project as well as allows you to compare local spam with a much larger spam database.

Without sounding like a commercial or an ad, please support all open source projects as much as possible.

Hope That Helps!
-- Joshua Preston

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mhacleth

Great!

Postby mhacleth » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:03 am

Thanks Josh!

I am sure many would benefit from that answer of yours. I was really wondering how to integrate ClamAV with MailWasher, and you just provided a most satisfying answer.

Are you planning a sequel for this?
Suggested Title: MailWasher+ClamAV on Scalix

;-)
Mhac

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Postby KKJensen » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:00 am

This should really be summarized in the wiki...maybe a FAQ can cover some of the questions we've discussed.

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Postby jpreston » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:34 pm

I have added it to the WIKI. Please go there for the most up to date information.

Thanks!

Joshua Preston.
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Postby msweany » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:40 am

Hey all,

I followed this great how to and I have since been using Scalix and Mailwasher as a home email server for several domains, I love it.

Since being turned on to Mailwasher I have used it in other installs for my consulting business.

My question to the posters of this thread is this:

Are any of you that implemented this solution having any troubles implementing RBL's?

See a thread I am posting in here(I'm ochaos)...

I started with MW install 2.1.3 and I just upgraded to 2.1.6, other then that I followed this how to for my setup... In a nutshell, I am getting this error when I try to use the RBL as an IP based service.

Code: Select all

The following RBLs cannot be activated as they do not appear to be functioning correctly: Spamhaus


I cannot get the RBL's to work on this scalix/mailwasher combo correctly...

Any ideas?

Shredder

Install on SLES 9

Postby Shredder » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:53 pm

I am trying to install MailWasher on a SLES 9 box, but I have an unmet dependancy of libldap-2.2.so.7 when I try to start up the mwserver-mwi service.

I have openldap2-client-2.2.24-4.12 installed but it doesn't seem to include this file.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Robert Birch

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Postby msweany » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:36 pm

have you tried yum install libldap ?

Shredder

Postby Shredder » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:32 am

Isn't YUM a RedHat thing? I couldn't find a installer for yum. I tried google, rpmfind, not luck.

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Postby florian » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:04 pm

Yum is Fedora and CentOS, up2date is RedHat, yast is SuSE and apt is debian/Ubuntu...

Florian.
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Postby msweany » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:21 am

Sorry, I didnt catch that it was SLES box..

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Postby frankv » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:04 am

I have the older release 2.1.0 working on SLES 9.

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Postby crankshaft » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:53 am

Hi;

Well encouragedafter seeing all of your posts on how easy it was, I have just spent the last 4 hours getting no-where.

I am using FC5 and have tried installing the mailwasher-2.1.9-1.i386.rpm which appeared to install, bu there were no prompts asking me any questions such as suggested here: http://oss.firetrust.com/docs/linux-install.html

So I checked that the user and group had been setup, that the various folders referred to had been installed, which they all appeared to be. I then enabled debugging in the .conf file did the chown and chmod on the folders / files and attempted to start both services, but neither would startup and both just hung there.

I checked the log file folder and it was empty, so no log file created. basically it does not run, and I don't seem to have any log files to determine what is or is not happening !

Has anyone else sucessfully installed on FC5 ?? - did you need to install any additional components ???

Any clues would be greatfully received !!

cheers

PeterC

Edit:

I just did a configure on the source and got the following error:
"The Berkeley DB header files could not be found. Please specify their location with --with-bdb"
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87368 (%build)

Do I need to install yet ANOTHER database just for mailwasher to use ???

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Postby Stefan_Blankenagel » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:46 am

Hi Peter,

I have the same problems like you. I hope to get help in the mailwasher forum. It would be great if someone could tell us what is missing or where the failrue is.

thnx

Stefan


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