Scalix CE on Freebsd ?

[zippelmann]

Hello,
I was searching for a long time for a mailserver with such an amount of options that clients like Evolution provide. Today I read on an newspage (heise.de) that the scalix mail server is now free. I looked at some screenshots and thought: Thats it. Unfortunately I read only something about linux support, but what is with freebsd ? Is there any possibility to run scalix CE on it ?

p.s. sry for my bad english.

[zippelmann]

EDIT:
I was not searching for a mailserver with possibilities like Evolution, but I was looking for a webclient with the same structure and options like Evolution it has.

( I did not find an edit-button, sry)

[Ata Rasekhi]

Scalix Community Edition currently supports the following operating systems:
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES 3.0 or 4.0 (32 bit, x86)
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS 3.0 or 4.0 (32 bit, x86)
• SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9.0 (32 bit, x86)
• SUSE Linux Professional 9.3 (32 bit, x86)
• Fedora Core 3 (32 bit, x86)
Scalix is carefully monitoring demand for additional operating systems and we will respond accordingly once demand for supporting additonal operating systems reaches critical mass.

[Ata Rasekhi]

Correction:
Fedora Core 4 (32 bit, x86) is supported in Scalix Community Edition not Fedora Core 3 (32 bit, x86) as previously and incorrectly stated.

[sam.sen]

I am also evaluating Scalix but my company runs FreeBSD. I would love to convert from our current setup but I wont leave FreeBSD for Linux.

[florian]

scalix is not currently supporting Free BSD and there are no immediate plans to do so.

:) Maybe our functionality will be good enough to help you consider the switch to linux.... ;)

cheers,
Florian.

[CrocusPlains]

Any changes to this list? Specifically SLES 9.0 64 bit?

Scalix Community Edition currently supports the following operating systems:
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES 3.0 or 4.0 (32 bit, x86)
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS 3.0 or 4.0 (32 bit, x86)
• SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9.0 (32 bit, x86)
• SUSE Linux Professional 9.3 (32 bit, x86)
• Fedora Core 3 (32 bit, x86)
Scalix is carefully monitoring demand for additional operating systems and we will respond accordingly once demand for supporting additonal operating systems reaches critical mass.

[ScalixSupport]

There are no changes to the list for this current release.

We are currently testing installation in a 64-bit environment for a future release (hopefully the next major one).

Cheers

Dave

[CrocusPlains]

Is there any way that I can participate in the testing? Is it in Beta yet? We don't have a large group, but we get a fair number of e-mails, with and without attachments(No Limits), on a regular basis.

There are no changes to the list for this current release.

We are currently testing installation in a 64-bit environment for a future release (hopefully the next major one).

Cheers

Dave

[ScalixSupport]

We don't have any current plans for beta testing on 64-bit but I have forwarded your details our product management team for consideration.

Cheers

Dave.

[shakh]

I'm weighing in with voicing my desire for FreeBSD support.

Sure, I could set up an additional server (or Virtual Machine) to run Scalix on Linux, but that makes it less appealing.

Daniel Shakhmundes, B.Sc.
http://Daniel.Shakhmundes.Net

[florian]

Still, the amount of requests for freebsd we're receiving doesn't justify the cost and efforts to do the port and testing for us.

The next release of scalix (coming in Q1/2006) will support Scalix on x86_86 platforms running redhat or suse operating systems though in addition to the i386 support.

Cheers,
Florian.

[till]

I would also like to second the "need" for a FreeBSD version. I don't know what all is involved to make this work, maybe you can tell us and let the community help? :)

[florian]

The problem is certainly not that we couldn't do it; there are no specific problems involved in such a port.

However, Scalix provides an Enterprise solution on all it's supported platforms; as such, we have extremely high quality standards in engineering and also subsequent QA. QA tells me that we're currently running more than 11000 testcases for each release. Obviously, many of them are platform specific and must be executed on any supported platform; also, our support team must be trained up on the platform specifics. Therefore, it becomes a number game... so far the business justification isn't there yet. :-)

Best way you can help us is to give us an indication about your specific environment, such as numbers of users, etc., as this will obviously be an important factor for our future planning around platforms.

Also, it would be interesting to hear why you would prefer freebsd over linux as your email server platform; particularly because in larger environments, customers tend to want to rely on "supported stacks".... one of the biggest advantages of linux in general and the enterprise distros in particular is that they are gaining more and more hardware support by the large intel/amd hardware vendors such as Dell, HP and IBM.

-- Florian.

[till]

The problem is certainly not that we couldn't do it; there are no specific problems involved in such a port.

That's actually great to hear.

However, Scalix provides an Enterprise solution on all it's supported platforms; as such, we have extremely high quality standards in engineering and also subsequent QA. QA tells me that we're currently running more than 11000 testcases for each release. Obviously, many of them are platform specific and must be executed on any supported platform; also, our support team must be trained up on the platform specifics. Therefore, it becomes a number game... so far the business justification isn't there yet. :-)

Yeah, I guess I can relate to that. I also understand (and value) your striving for bug-free software, but why do you not "outsource" this efford to the community? There is another thread where you are asking for motivation and so on, maybe you just have to involve people a bit.

And why not release a development edition for people to try and debug on their system of choice without *any* warranty. I can only stress it again that I would really like to provide you with feedback.

Best way you can help us is to give us an indication about your specific environment, such as numbers of users, etc., as this will obviously be an important factor for our future planning around platforms.

I have at 200-300 potential users for your system.

Also, it would be interesting to hear why you would prefer freebsd over linux as your email server platform; particularly because in larger environments, customers tend to want to rely on "supported stacks".... one of the biggest advantages of linux in general and the enterprise distros in particular is that they are gaining more and more hardware support by the large intel/amd hardware vendors such as Dell, HP and IBM.

I prefer FreeBSD over Linux because of how a system is build (and organized), overall security, decentralized development of the core and ported software available.
I know that large customers tend to use what they get a support contract for, and I know about your hinting at hardware, but that is not the case for me.

I run OpenBSD, NetBSD, DFBSD and FreeBSD. And Point taken, that BSD may not run with just any blend you can buy, but a solid investment in quality hardware has never let me down and therefor I have never had issues with hardware on BSD.

Thanks for your time,
Till