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Apple Mail and Scalix not talking

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:33 am
by topslakr
Hello,
I'm trying to use apple Mail as a imap client for Scalix but it fails to allow me to login. I'm using the most current version of Scalix as it was downloaded and installed yesterday (June 26, 2006) onto a clean installed of Fedora Core 4. I did a minimal install of fedora with no GUI onto a VM inside of Vmware's Virtual Server. I have not yet implemented SSL or anything on top of the base Scalix install. I have gotten it to work on my Apple using Mozilla Thunderbird. The apple is running OSX.4 Tiger and is fully up to date. I have no trouble using imap with other clients and other OSes. It just seems to be apple mail. Has anyone else seen this? Am I missing something foolish?


Robert

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:17 pm
by Witti
I'm running Scalix for a long time. Now I got a Mac an have the same problem. I can't find the problem. Any hints?

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:07 am
by florian
This is strange. Both our VP Engineering and myself are using Apple Mail (Tiger - I love my Mac Book Pro) on a daily basis against Scalix and we don't see any issues.

Do the Scalix server logs show anything in particular during signon?

One of the things that you could check is if you have all the SASL library packages installed on your Scalix server (is this a 64 Bit box and OS?) as I don't know out of my head what Authentication mechanism Apple Mail is trying to use by default.

Hope this helps,
Florian.

Still looking for help

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:20 pm
by topslakr
Thanks for the response Florian but it has left me with even more questions. I've no idea how to get the SASL stuff installed or how to make the webmail client work over ssl. I've been having trouble finding the docs I need to learn the system well enough. To be honest I'm not even sure which logs I would be looking in. I am loving the functionality of the product so far but I'm ready to take my knowledge to the next level here. Any help you can provide would be really great.

Robert

In my frustration....

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:53 pm
by topslakr
Seems I have been able to get apple mail to work. On the setup screen it tells you it fails but if you continue on and then tell it to use password authentication instead of kerberos it seems to work fine. I would like to get imap happening over ssl though as well as the webmail client...I'm all ears if anyone can just point me in the right direction!! Thx

Robert

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:42 pm
by florian
Have you setup IMAP/SSL on the server? That's the first step. you will need to setup "stunnel" - check out the forum, I guess you'll see some pointers if you look for the keyword.

Florian.

I am so lost....

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:03 pm
by topslakr
I appreciate you still responding Florian, it's great to see a response. I am unfortunatly still lost. You mention stunnel is the first step? Did my attempt at getting webmail to happen over SSL fail because stunnel wasn't setup yet? I could really a single doc that outlines how to secure from top to bottom.. perhaps if I get this all to work I will make such a file.

Could i get some pointers on where to start and what is involved is securing the whole system? What can be secured and what do I need to look for to do that? I am ready to do the work but I don't know where to start. I'm not new to Linux I have just never built a linux email server before. Is their a central doc somewhere about this already that I just don't see?


Robert

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:12 am
by florian
Hi,

sorry for the incomplete answer - I'm currently at OSCON in Portland and kinda really caught up with everything that surrounds our Open Source announcement. :-)

Could you possibly try to hit the Forum's search button (all the way above) and just enter "stunnel" as a keyword? I just did that and found a couple of useful articles, including a link to a solution from our Support's knowledgebase.

If that doens't do the trick for you, feel free to ping me back.

You're right - by default, IMAP/SSL, POP/SSL is not setup, so if you tried this from a client, it wouldn't work and should probably result in a connection refused error....

Hope this helps,
Florian.