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[audiotron2002]

Question: Can I configure Scalix so that even local delivery is first router to a seperate mail server? I figured out that changing DS to DSm.mailserver.com works for internet bound email, but is there a way to configure this for local bound email too?

the reason is that I want all of the outbound mail processed by our central mailserver (for security / virus / spam).

I tried using the DEFUALT_SMTP command, but that did not seem to do anything.

Thanks,

[florian]

No you can't, at least not this easily.

Internal mail is never transported using smtp, so any smtp related configuration will not change a thing. The exception to this is email submitted from Scalix Web Access, which travels via SMTP to the server. Internal mail, coming from Outlook, goes via Service Router to Local Delivery., Again, SMTP is not used as a transport mechanism here.

For anti-virus scanning, we suggest that you use the Service Router Anti Virus interface provided by the Service Router. See the admin guide or the Knowledgebase for configuration information.

Usually, Spam is not really considered a big issue for internal mail, so we don't provide an interface here.

The advantage you gain from Scalix using it's own internal transports is basically no message copying, i.e. when a message is sent from user A to user B on the same server, NO data whatsoever is copied around, only references are passed through the service router and local delivery service. This is very efficient and is part of our great scaleability within the product.

Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Florian.

[audiotron2002]

Maybe there is another way to solve my problem.

I guess I can live without the spam and anti virus scanning on my central mail server.

But the bigger problem is the blackberry users. How can I forward duplicate messages to the blackberry devices? I have been using our central mail server to do this with procmail. Procmail allows me to filter certain messages that are forwaded to the blackberry device (e.g., dont foward messages tagged as spam or other mailing list messages). Each user can set his/her own procmail filters.

I see that you can use sxaa to redirect ALL messages a user receives and keep a local copy but it does not give you granularity.

What is the solution to forward certain messages to a blackberry device (and keep a local copy)?

[florian]

Well, certainly the best way to integrate with the Blackberry device is our Scalix recommended wireless solution NotifyLink for Scalix; further information can be found at www.notifycorp.com.

sxaa is only able to setup very simple server based rules; in their full specs, they can include all kinds of filtering. I believe you should check out the possibilities first using the user interface, either the integrated Scalx Rules Wizard within Outlook or the Web-based Scalix Rules wizard, available after installation at http://serverhostname/Scalix/rw or through the link the SWA.

If you then need to automate setting these up, have a look at the auto-action file (called "3d" file) that the rules wizard generates and manipulate it manually. You'll find a doc in the Knowledgebase talking about it. Also, sxaa is a script, so you might just want to have a look....

-- F.

[audiotron2002]

I am familiar with the client side rules filtering. The big problem is that you CANNOT retain a local copy if you redirect. Forwarding will not work since it alters the headers.

It would be great if there was a redirect option that kept a local copy in the user's mailbox. Thats why I ened to use sxaa.

I will check out notify corp, but from what I heard they only support windows and the only reason we are considering Scalix is because of the linux OS. It would be ironic to switch to Scalix but have to reintroduce a Windows server for the blackberry users. That gets us back to exaclty where we are now.

Let me pose the question this way: Can you redirect certain messages and retain a copy of all messages on the Scalix server? If so, then the problem is solved.

I really want to purchase Scalix but these issues need to be ironed out before we switch.

[florian]

yes you can..... you're right in that the client side does not allow you to set the delete-after-redirect flag - sxaa does; if you combine the setup rule (using filters) with setting this flag/bit (it's a simple binary value, but don't ask me which) through a hacked sxaa version, you should get what youu need.

good luck, if you don't get on at all let me know and I'll have a look - but no more this year! :-)

-- f.

[florian]

May another piece of good news for you as well...

While you're correct in stating that the Notify Wireless solution currently requires a Windows Server OS, one of the reasons we teamed up with them to jointly develop the Scalix wireless solution was their long-term Linux strategy.

NotifyLink server on Linux is in some kind of a beta today, I believe; once this is released, we'll need to port our Scalix Connect for Wireless Notify connector to Linux as well, but we believe to have a full Linux solution available sometime in 2006. Once this is done, it should also be possible to run Scalix and Notify servers on a single box for small installations; we believe, as servers get stronger, this is the right move in consolidation where other email vendors seem to demand more and more distributed boxes for even their smallest installations.

Also, the Notify solution gives your Blackberry users a much richer experience; not only can you sync multiple folders, but you can also sync-back sent items, read markings and even message deletions from your Blackberry devices, not to speak of all the PIM functionality (calendar, contacts and tasks) not available with the provider-based email forwarding.

Cheers,
Florian.

P.S. maybe you should work with one of our Sales/SE guys to find the best possible solution for you - are you located in North America or EMEA?

[audiotron2002]

I figured it out. I created a rule with sxaa (with the retain flag set). Then I modified the rule in the SWA client. This way the retain flag was still set and I was able to modify the conditions.

Im located in North America.

I look forward to the linux notify solution. That will be exactly what I need as we are a small shop and will only use one server for everything.

[audiotron2002]

Can we revisit this issue?

Yes, I created a rule with SXAA and managed to modify it in the SWA interface. But this prevents the rest of my filters from working.

I have always had a SPAM filter that filters SPAM to a junk folder. Now when I added the new rule for redirecting (and retaining), two copies show up in my inbox and one copy shows up in the junk folder.

Obviously Scalix was not designed to handle procmail type of redirection.

Im back to my original problem of how to forward only certain mail to my blackberry account.

Why cant I do this? Is there anyway to force Scalix to use sendmail as its outgoing SMTP even for local delivery (that would solve the problem).

HELP