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Scalix Server Debian Packages

Postby pobk » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:53 pm

Hi,

I've created some Debian/Ubuntu packages for the Scalix Server, SAC and SWA based on the Community Edition.

They work perfectly, and I've tested them on a number of platforms, however I'd like to enquire as to what the Installation script actually does in terms of installing it.

Since debian packages are hellishly more advanced than rpms I would like to incorporate the actions of the installer into the pre-install script of the package.

So my first question is, what actions does the installer make? Pre-install, post-install etc... I would love to be able to roll-out Scalix on some of my clients platforms, and the best way of doing this is using debian packages, mostly due to the fact that it can be componentised.

Would scalix grant this to the community? Am I likely to run into legal issues? Is Scalix likely to want to offer packages for additional platforms? AM i barking up the wrong tree? Should I rm -rf the package tree i've created?

The packages I've created thus far are based entirely upon the RPMs, and since the installation distributes and uses compiled python libraries to facilitate the actual installation, I'm unable to tell exactly what is going on (well i could, but that would be un-ethical, immoral and illegal) easily.

I place myself at the mercy of the Scalix Lawyers!

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Richard

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Postby pobk » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:05 am

Are the lawyers still faffing?

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Postby ScalixSupport » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:06 am

It is much worse than that ;-)

How about some lawyer jokes in the meantime:

Q: How can you tell a lawyer is lying?
A: His lips are moving.


Cheers,

Sascha.

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Postby pobk » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:54 am

ScalixSupport wrote:It is much worse than that ;-)


Worse than Lawyers?! No! Surely not! Not Managers?! Please no, mercy... I scream mercy! Don't subject me to the Managers!

ScalixSupport wrote:How about some lawyer jokes in the meantime:

Q: How can you tell a lawyer is lying?
A: His lips are moving.


*chuckle*

Always a good laugh.

~ Rich

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Postby pobk » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:26 pm

ScalixSupport wrote:It is much worse than that ;-)

<snip>

Cheers,

Sascha.



Erm Ping? Is anything happening on this front or should I start running things in gdb ?

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Postby ScalixSupport » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:00 am

I have not forgotten this thread, I am just unable to add anything in a public forum. I'll try and get PM to contribute.

Sascha.

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Postby florian » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:08 am

pobk,

unfortunately our lawyers tell us that we should not allow our support stuff to answer questions like this right now. The fact that Sascha is German, but based in UK, I am German, based in Germany and most of our Exec (and legal!) staff is American and based in the US doesn't really make it simpler and places all of us at the mercy of lawyers fluent in international law and probably some court in Den Hague in the worst case. ;-)

Kidding. :-)

Having said this and given that we've already tested your patience quite a bit, you might give it another shot and wait for a few more days (if you're curious about more precise dates, check the Scalix website for events we're attending to in the near future :-)). I believe we will have a few announcements for you that will answer your question!

So much for leaking information......

Cheers,
Florian.
Florian von Kurnatowski, Die Harder!

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Postby pobk » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:21 am

florian wrote:pobk,

unfortunately our lawyers tell us that we should not allow our support stuff to answer questions like this right now. The fact that Sascha is German, but based in UK, I am German, based in Germany and most of our Exec (and legal!) staff is American and based in the US doesn't really make it simpler and places all of us at the mercy of lawyers fluent in international law and probably some court in Den Hague in the worst case. ;-)


Eeep! I didn't mean to start a legal war. I only want to make rollout of the packages on the servers I manage alot easier, without having to resort to manual intervention.

The key information I want to know is: what steps are taken by the installer to create the initial config (setting up the mail host, adding admin user).

I'm sure the installer is only executing CLI commands which I hope are documented someplace. Maybe a pointer to the docs?

florian wrote:Kidding. :-)

Having said this and given that we've already tested your patience quite a bit, you might give it another shot and wait for a few more days (if you're curious about more precise dates, check the Scalix website for events we're attending to in the near future :-)). I believe we will have a few announcements for you that will answer your question!


Ok. Sadly I'm unable to make it to Boston, Ontario or South Africa... :(

*snif* Some people get all the fun.

~ Rich

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Postby florian » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:36 am

;-) You investigative skills around potentially Scalixiting travel destinations are not too bad!

For those who don't want to waste time on google..... these are the locations of the next three upcoming LinuxWorld events!

Scalix will actually be present on all three of those; Boston will have a whole bunch of Scalix people around, Toronto/Ontario should see a few (including a slight possibility for myself) and Jo'burg, South Africa will have Scalix presented by a partner and eventually one of us attending as well.

See us at those shows - we'll have exciting news for you! :-)

Florian.

P.S. Rich, where are you located? Maybe we'll soon be someplace near you!
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Postby pobk » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:57 am

florian wrote:P.S. Rich, where are you located? Maybe we'll soon be someplace near you!


Oxfordshire, UK

It's not that difficult for me to get anywhere in the UK really :)

With that in mind, I think I'll shelve this for the moment.

~ Rich


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