still no support for Push email and Symbian?

[bangsters]

Hi. I was wondering if there is any luck with push email especially for symbian OS. I noticed notify doesn't support this yet...

...any suggestions? P910 has a Blackberry connect capability, not sure if that helps in integrating with blackberry module instead of symbian...

Thanks

[ScalixSupport]

Hi!

Currently Notify support devices with Palm based OS, Blackberry OS and Win Mobile 5.

Talking about Symbian OS, Notify supports only Nokia 9290 Communicator, only for Microsoft Exchange and Novell GroupWise environments.

To further clarify question please visit.
http://www.notifycorp.com/Press/1219b2002.html

Thanks,
Subir

[florian]

Just as a side remark, the IMAP email client on my Symbian-based Nokia E61 works just fine and uses IMAP IDLE.....

Cheers,
Florian.

[bangsters]

Just as a side remark, the IMAP email client on my Symbian-based Nokia E61 works just fine and uses IMAP IDLE.....

Cheers,
Florian.

but IMAP uses pull technology not pushed right? If that's the case, the IMAP for myp910 can only do auto sync every 15mins. And it takes a while to keep resyncing the emails, as I used IMAP for some of my email addresses that do not need that much attention, but for some of my emails, I need to be updated every min or two :(

[florian]

well, twofold.

If a client uses IMAP/IDLE, that means connection is kept open and the server sends notification as soon as a message arrives. This is the same level of push microsoft offers for active sync devices with exchange.

"true" network level push can only be implemented with solutions where a server on the carrier's side is involved, i.e. solutions such as blackberry. again, as per the above, microsofts solution is not really true push. if you play it really hard, even blackberry isn't, because the device still polls, but it is done so deep in the mobile network layer that you can't make the difference.

The discussion of pull vs push is pretty pointless, for this reason. I'd rather go for what the user experience is like. IMAP on E61 means that email is coming in immediately and there is no ongoing polling traffic. I'd call that a push-type experience. (though the client is not 100% stable yet on the device and crashes once in a while. two software updates yet since device release in May last year, and getting better every time)

Florian.

[bangsters]

When you say IMAP/IDLE, you mean the standard IMAP protocol, as in what we can setup in outlook, or it's a different kind? the problem with symbian particularly p910 is the polling is every 15 mins, nothing shorter :(

[florian]

IDLE is an optional extension to the standard IMAP protocol originally defined in RFC2177 and carried into the IMAP4rev1 RFC 3501. A good description can be found at http://www.isode.com/whitepapers/imap-idle.html

Both client and server must support IDLE for it to be usable; The Symbian 9.1 client in the E61 does support IDLE and so does Scalix. Outlook's IMAP implementation does not support it, unfortunately Apple Mail (which I'm using quite frequently) doesn't, at least as of Tiger, and Thunderbird does.

Don't know about the P910, but I assume it doesn't because it uses an older Symbian version.

Cheers,
Florian.